RE: Netfilter (Linux) Does IPv6 NAT

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Hi Doug, 

> >
> > We have local source address selection mechanisms in recent Windows
> versions that use randomized IIDs on outbound connections today.  This
> doesn't prevent exposure of the information regarding the internal
> network structure, but nor do firewalls at publically addressed IPv4
> institutions today.
> 
> This has been covered many times, but once more (with feeling) ...
> 
> The problem that 4941 is designed to fix is to avoid being able to
> track the same user on *different* networks. This is possible because
> by default the host portion of the address remains constant, and
> theoretically globally unique.
> 
> Privacy for a user that is always connecting through the same network
> is a whole different basket of bagels.

We have not had carrier NAT solutions until walled gardens came in with 3G networks, and now people are mooting CGNs, but I have not seen many in general use for access networks.

Up until now, we have migrated addresses when a new PDP-Context, PPP (Dialup/xDSL) or DHCP Lease has been supplied.  In IPv4, the session uniquely identifies/identified the session and links to the user during that interval.
The same is true for IPv6, except that IPv6 defaulted to MAC based IIDs.  With 4941, the same Layer 2 identity is removed, and we have the same circumstances with IPv4 and IPv6.

So CGNs for IPv4 are an answer to a new question that you pose where the implicit assumption is that it is insufficient to maintain address unlinkability between different PDP-Context/PPP/DHCP sessions.

Given that we have good local addressing mechanisms in IPv6 (ULA, Link-local) and automatic global prefix configuration mechanisms (SAA/RA/DHCPv6/DHCPv6-PD), I would like to know: What are the advantages of CGNs for IPv6 and does the cost to application development justify the change?

Sincerely, 

Greg Daley
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