On 2011-03-31 00:21, Olaf Kolkman wrote: > Dear Colleagues, > > I have just chartered a very short draft that intends to update BCP101. It can be found at: > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-kolkman-iasa-ex-officio-membership > > The draft is very short and contains only a few sentences of substance: > > The IETF chair, the IAB chair, and the ISOC President/CEO may > delegate their responsibilities to other persons. The delegations by > the IETF chair and the IAB chair need to be confirmed by the IESG and > IAB respectively. The terms of delegation is for a longer term for > instance aligned with the IESG and IAB appointment cycles (roughly > anual). > > John Klensin made me aware he also had a similar idea earlier: > http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-klensin-iaoc-member-00.txt > > The main difference is between his and this draft is that John's I-D makes the person the chair delegates to a non-voting liaison. I have a small preference for the IAB and the IESG keeping the control point, and I implicitly assume that for IASA matters the persons delegated to will escalate to the chairs and ask for specific guidance when appropriate. I realize that for the Trust anybody serves on personal title. For the trust alignment with the IAOC membership is just a practical considerations. > > The shared requirement is unloading the I* chairs and the ISOC president and empowering the people that serve in that role to organize themselves. (I should have paid more attention to this much earlier.) I find myself very torn on this proposal. Believe me, I understand the workload issue. But on the other hand, at the very beginning of my time as IETF Chair, I experienced the *previous* workload issue, when there was no IASA, IAD or IAOC. There was a dramatic decrease when the IAD arrived and the IAOC (and Trust) started to function. But the IETF Chair, as a full member of the IAOC, still got to understand the ongoing issues and of course influence the decision process. Yes, it was part of the workload, and I think that was a good thing. I'm very concerned about the IETF Chair getting decoupled from the IAOC. The IETF Chair's job is a whole lot more than being IESG Chair, and some degree of personal responsibility for oversight of the administrative work seems to me to be appropriate. So I'm not at all sure this delegation is a good thing. I'm not commenting on the IAB Chair and ISOC CEO slots. Delegation probably makes sense for them. Brian _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf