Re: Call for a Jasmine Revolution in the IETF: Privacy, Integrity, Obscurity

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Hi Joel, 

RFC 2804 "IETF Policy on Wiretapping" was written by the IESG and the IAB.

>From the abstract: 

   The Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) has been asked to take a
   position on the inclusion into IETF standards-track documents of
   functionality designed to facilitate wiretapping.

   This memo explains what the IETF thinks the question means, why its
   answer is "no", and what that answer means.

Security protocols are in general designed to prevent wiretapping (in certain threat models, i.e. depending on where you consider the adversary is).

Ciao
Hannes


On Mar 22, 2011, at 4:35 PM, Joel Jaeggli wrote:

> On 3/22/11 8:23 AM, Alessandro Vesely wrote:
>> I think the IETF must substantiate its position against wiretapping by
>> providing alternative practical means to counter crime.  Failing to do so
>> would recast ourselves as proposers of Utopian designs.  And, yes, after more
>> than a decade of spam supremacy, email would certainly be a convincing
>> test-bed for our ability at providing such alternative means.
> 
> The IETF does not have a an official position "against" wiretapping. We
> have RFC 2804 which is an IAB statement on it being out of scope for the
> creation and maintenance of IETF standards.
> 
> The responsibility for the requirements is necessarily in the hands of
> state actors whether we're in the US, Europe, China or Iran.
> 
> joel
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