On 3/22/11 8:23 AM, Alessandro Vesely wrote: > I think the IETF must substantiate its position against wiretapping by > providing alternative practical means to counter crime. Failing to do so > would recast ourselves as proposers of Utopian designs. And, yes, after more > than a decade of spam supremacy, email would certainly be a convincing > test-bed for our ability at providing such alternative means. The IETF does not have a an official position "against" wiretapping. We have RFC 2804 which is an IAB statement on it being out of scope for the creation and maintenance of IETF standards. The responsibility for the requirements is necessarily in the hands of state actors whether we're in the US, Europe, China or Iran. joel _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf