Re: Call for a Jasmine Revolution in the IETF: Privacy, Integrity, Obscurity

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On 11/03/2011, at 5:07 PM, Dean Willis wrote:

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> On Mar 10, 2011, at 12:31 PM, Mark Nottingham wrote:
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>> This will have the effect of isolating some companies and countries from the Internet. Is that a good outcome?
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> You mean some third-world (or soon to be) junta-dictator might officially and deliberately cut their economy off from the world's communication networks, thereby insuring economic failure, rather than suffer the risk that their citizens might be exposed to external influence or use the Internet to complain about or conspire against their "lawful leaders", rather as North Korea has done?
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> I'm OK with that. It helps bring about their failure due to economic collapse rather than requiring outside force to stop their depredations, although it might take a few generations to work.

... compared to the much faster social changes that have been witnessed in places where there's been even partial exposure to external information, that seems like a poor outcome. Collapse is messy and very dangerous for the people you want to help.


> I'm also okay with air-dropping satellite terminals and television receivers to their victims, and with beaming high-power wireless signals across their borders in order to speed things up.

And how likely are those things to actually happen and have a measurable effect? Seriously. 

I have severe doubts about whether this is an appropriate and capable forum for making such weighty judgements. YMMV.


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Mark Nottingham   http://www.mnot.net/



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