On Sep 7, 2010, at 8:41 PM, Ross Callon wrote: > >> It's my sense that it's increasingly difficult to do >> work in the IETF without being physically present at >> meetings, as well... > > I think that this has been true since the first IETF (at least if you replace the word "increasingly" with the word "very"). I also think that this is true of other standards groups that I have attended. If you attend a long string of meetings, you can probably miss one, send in a contribution, and people that you know might take it seriously. However, to have impact you need to make a habit of showing up at nearly every meeting (IMHO). That's generally been my experience also, both when I was attending IETF regularly and since. Part of why this is true may be that working group meetings are pretty nearly useless (especially if, as was the case last time I attended, most of the WG meeting time is devoted toPowerPoint presentations). Most of the real work gets done in the hallways, restaurants, and bars. Even if you can work out better ways of letting people remotely participate in the meetings, that doesn't help them contribute to the work that gets done elsewhere. Keith _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf