>>>>> "Paul" == Paul Hoffman <paul.hoffman@xxxxxxxx> writes: >> - the room should be a regular room (mp3 stream) Paul> I don't think the MP3 streaming happens after the last regular Paul> meeting is finished. The mics had been removed from the rooms Paul> well before the nonBoFs happened in Maastricht. >> - the secretariat should consider having one fewer regular track >> on Monday/Tuesday. Paul> Fully disagree. We had a lot of contention for real IETF slots Paul> at this meeting, and I don't want to see folks fall back to Paul> non-WG meetings. Yes there certainly is contention, but I know at least one WG that did not use one of their two slots. I also experienced a number of WGs (all remote) where there were multiple presentations which were: a) not related to any draft I could find. b) not uploaded beforehand. c) not clearly related to any action of the WG. (no Paul, none of them in IPSECME) I contend that we use our in-person meeting time very poorly, and that we need less meeting time, not more. Providing an outlet for presentations like this would, I think, make it easier for WG chairs to stick to the action items at hand. -- ] He who is tired of Weird Al is tired of life! | firewalls [ ] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works, Ottawa, ON |net architect[ ] mcr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca/ |device driver[ Kyoto Plus: watch the video <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzx1ycLXQSE> then sign the petition. _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf