On Jul 8, 2010, at 1:18 PM, Melinda Shore wrote: > On Jul 8, 2010, at 12:08 PM, Fred Baker wrote: >> Boy, would they dispute that. ITU has claimed that the IETF is not an open organization because a government cannot join it. Most membership organizations, RIPE, being an example, have a definition of how someone can become a member (members of RIPE are companies and pay a fee), and are considered open to that class of membership. > > But the IETF isn't a membership organization - isn't that > at least in part what's meant by "open," and why at least in > part we don't have voting (in theory)? We don't have voting because we don't have members, yes. Definitions of "open" vary, and boil down to a statement of what kind of actor an organization is open to. IETF is open to individuals. _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf