Re: Advance travel info for IETF-78 Maastricht

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I live in Germany, and I had ordered all the Credit cards (Master and Visa)
which I used during 1994-2008 explicitly _without_ PIN -- because I did _NOT_
want them to be usable to draw cash from an ATM, only for signature
based transactions.  Going into a bank and obtaining cash
with card, picture-ID and signature was still possible.
Paying in restaurants and shops, hotels and rental cars is also
possible with only signature-based transacations.

I have never seen a credit card purchase with PIN.
Have Visa/MasterCard/etc. come up with additional payment options
like Maestro, ElectronicCash and the stuff that you have on traditional
ATM cards?

-Martin


Ole Jacobsen wrote:
> 
> This is only true for EUROPEAN issued credit cards (some of which have 
> chips and some which don't). You can get a PIN for your US credit 
> card, but it will NOT work for credit card purchases, only as your PIN 
> for cash advances (like an ATM card). There is no PIN required when 
> using US-based cards for purchases, and if you are asked to provide 
> one, the PIN you have been given for cash advances will NOT work.
> 
> Yes, it is confusing to say the least.
> 
> I agree that we should move this to a new list: ietf-78 which I hereby
> ask Ray to create.
> 
> Ole
> 
> On Tue, 30 Mar 2010, Dmitry Burkov wrote:
> > 
> > Wrong - cards - both as credits and debits work without any chips - only PIN
> > required - Visa and Mastercard.
> > 
> > Dima
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