Re: Advance travel info for IETF-78 Maastricht

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Hi, Ole,

I'm still having coherency problems after IETF 77 - sorry.

What I was wondering wasn't why there is an attendees list (I remember the "where is the nearest Apple store" discussions that resulted in current practice).

What I'm wondering is why we continue to set up 76attendees, 77attendees, 78attendees, and not something like ietf-attendees. Whatever current practice is on opt-in, and on pretty much everything else about the way the NNattendees lists are handled, seems to be fine.

I'm remembering that we were already getting information about Hiroshima (IETF 76) posted prior to IETF 75 (including very helpful material from you), and we had some discussions about the IETF 78 site that started soon after IETF 76. If we have 70-percent turnover in who's subscribed to each ietf meeting-specific list, having ietf meeting-specific lists makes sense, but if it's 70-percent the same people each time, why not have one list that we use for all site-specific topics, so if someone were to have something helpful to say about IETF 79 in Beijing now, there would be an obvious place to put it, and an equally obvious place to look for it in a few months when people are making travel arrangements?

Just a thought...

Spencer

Spencer,

This practice was started because the main IETF list got flooded with
messages like "where is the nearest Apple store?" once we were onsite
and this annoyed the folks who weren't actually at the meeting. Having
it (opt-in) on a per-meeting basis makes sense to me, if we create the
list in advance of the meeting (pre-registration), I guess we'd have
to figure out some subscription mechanims (like "you will be
auto-subscribed once you post your first message to ietf-xx" or
something like that.) I can see a lot of value in having a list
created well in advance to answer questions such as visa and
transportation.

Ole

Ole J. Jacobsen
Editor and Publisher,  The Internet Protocol Journal
Cisco Systems
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On Tue, 30 Mar 2010, Spencer Dawkins wrote:

I'm not sure I understand what problem we're solving by setting up IETF
meeting-specific mailing lists each time. It's not like most of the attendees at IETF 77 weren't at at least one meeting in the previous year, and if there is a population on earth that we should expect to be able to unsubscribe from mailing lists when they aren't relevant to us, it's IETF attendees. Maybe an
ietf-meeting-attendees mailing list, and be done with it?

Spencer



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