> -----Original Message----- > From: Melinda Shore [mailto:melinda.shore@xxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 12:44 PM > To: Dan Wing > Cc: 'Joel Jaeggli'; 'IAB'; 'IETF Discussion Mailing List' > Subject: Re: Comment on draft-iab-ipv6-nat-00 > > Dan Wing wrote: > > ICE does not perform resource reservation and ICE does not > > perform capability negotiation. > > You might not call it that but it does, in fact, > snag resources. ICE sends UDP packets and TCP packets. I agree they might create state in a NAT, and state in a NAT is a resource. But with that argument my web browser is also doing 'resource reservation'. > On the capability negotiation > front I figure that's just a matter of time. > (Somebody needs to come up with a cool acronym > expansion for METASTASIS). Sure. But every exensible protocol can do 'capability negotiation'. TCP does it: winscale, timestamps, and SACK are all capabilities that are negotiated during connection establishment. -d > That said, I'm not crazy about capability negotiation. > Try something and send meaningful error messages if > it doesn't work. Avoid race conditions and try to > keep state machines cleaner. > > Melinda > _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf