RE: Comment on draft-iab-ipv6-nat-00

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx [mailto:ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx] On 
> Behalf Of Scott Brim
> Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 7:11 AM
> To: Brian E Carpenter
> Cc: Iljitsch van Beijnum; IAB; IETF Discussion Mailing List; 
> Lixia Zhang
> Subject: Re: Comment on draft-iab-ipv6-nat-00
> 
> Brian E Carpenter allegedly wrote on 03 21 2009 4:07 PM:
> > So instead, you run NAT at every ISP connection. Your 
> internal users get
> > NATted to an ISP prefix at whichever exit point their 
> traffic happens
> > to reach, which automatically causes their return traffic 
> to come through
> > the same ISP. That exit point is locally chosen by the 
> local routing setup.
> > You don't need any worldwide coordination of the BGP4 
> advertisements,
> > because there aren't any expect the ISP's normal ones. Also, traffic
> > flows inside your network are localised, since traffic goes out and
> > returns through a (reasonably) local gateway.
> > 
> > When one of these NATs goes down, active connections will be lost,
> > but IGP routing will switch users automatically to a different NAT
> > when they retry.
> 
> If you allow your hosts to use multiple connection points into the
> Internet, and external routing changes so that the packets 
> they send go
> out different connection points, their apparent source address can
> change.  One of the requirements for effective use of NAT and
> multihoming is that your hosts' peers need to handle this (via
> Multipath, HIP, MIP, SCTP or whatever).  That is, you can't allow your
> hosts to use multiple connection points until everyone _else_ 
> they talk
> to has been upgraded.  How will you know when that is?

A host knows if it is using HIP, MIP, or SCTP to communicate with
another host.  FYI, there is also a new idea for Mobile DTLS which
provides similar address mobility, draft-barrett-mobile-dtls-00.txt.

-d


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