Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: > On Thu, Dec 04, 2008 at 04:29:51PM -0500, > Keith Moore <moore@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote > a message of 28 lines which said: > >> It's a question of whether increasing reliance on DNS by trying to >> get apps and other things to use DNS names exclusively, makes those >> apps and other things less reliable. > > For a good part, this is already done. You cannot use IP addresses for > many important applications (the Web because of virtual hosting and > email because most MTA setup prevent it). you're generalizing about the entire Internet from two applications? > And, as far as I know, nobody complained. The only person I know who > puts IP addresses on business cards is Louis > Pouzin <pouzin@[137.194.2.14]> address literals were quite useful for diagnostic purposes. the fact that most MTAs now prevent using them in outgoing mail is quite unfortunate. though they were even more useful when you could expect to do things like RCPT TO:<moore%example.com@[192.168.0.1]> as a way to query a specific SMTP server as to what it would do with a specific domain name. but that's really beside the point. the real point is this: please figure out how to make DNS more reliable, more in sync with the world, and less of a single point of failure and control, before insisting that we place more trust in it. Keith _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf