On Sat, Nov 08, 2008 at 05:41:41PM -0500, Keith Moore wrote: > I really think that if you can design and standardize a protocol for > reporting reputation which includes a mechanism for making the > reputation service accountable to end users, and also is reasonably > secure, you might seriously improve email reliability. I just don't > think that DNSBL is good enough for that and I doubt that DNS can be > stretched far enough to make that work well. Indeed; reputation system for the reputation servers! Of course, if DNSBL operaters were to find the that shoe was on the other foot, such that their reputations were getting judged by the same criteria that sites are declared "unclean" (i.e., by unauthenticated rumor), maybe there would be more attention and care towards some secure, accountable way for conclusions to be reached on some particular host's reputations, whether it is running a SMTP server or a DNSBL, and for a more secure, authenticated, and accountable way for that reputation to be carried across the network. - Ted _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf