On 2008-08-15 01:48, SM wrote: > At 03:59 14-08-2008, Marshall Eubanks wrote: >> One solution would be to require a TDMA like confirmation of the >> existence of posters (do they >> exist, and are they with the company they claim to be speaking for) >> _before_ the posting is accepted. > > The submission form could send out an email to the two email addresses > and accept the submission if a confirmation is received from them. That > may reduce "spam" and some duplicate submissions. > >> - a requirement that a company confirm the validity of a disclosure >> before it is posted publicly. > > IPR disclosures are submitted by participants and contributors. Does a > company fall within these two categories? Exactly. We've always allowed contributors to be represented by their employers in IPR disclosures, but the onus is on the contributor. In any case, *any* form of vetting of the sender of a disclosure seems to me to be much further down the slippery slope of making a judgment than either duplicate-detection or drivel-filtering. I really do not think we should go there. If unauthorised license promises are made, we want to be well out of the legal firing line. On 2008-08-15 02:24, Stephan Wenger wrote: ... > Nokia is one of the companies which submitted a number of withdrawal > requests for previous disclosures. In no case (that I'm aware of) our > intention has been to sneak out of a licensing commitment. Instead, we > submitted withdrawal requests with the intention to keep the IETF patent > database a useful tool---to do our share of database cleanup, so to speak. The intention is fine but removing is IMHO completely the wrong answer - the correct answer is to update the disclosure with a new one that withdraws it. I can see that the removal of a very recent disclosure that's found to be in error may be reasonable, but even that isn't described in RFC 3979. Brian _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf