Re: SHOULD vs MUST case sensitivity

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Would a reasonable BCP for future docs looks something like:

terms defined in RFC 2119 are to be capitalized for clarity; alternatives for RFC 2119 terms, such as "ought" and "can" are to be used in
  non-normative text to avoid confusion

- Ralph

On Jun 30, 2008, at Jun 30, 2008,10:08 AM, Spencer Dawkins wrote:

Without reference to other points that have been made in this thread, it's also worth noting that Gen-ART reviewers have been challenging 2119-ish statements in drafts under review for several years, assuming that capitalization is significant, and discouraging upper-casing for emphasis.

It would be lovely to have the current practice written down clearly, so authors and editors aren't surprised when this happens (and we never have to revisit the topic).

Thanks,

Spencer

However, there is abundant evidence to support argument
that prospective RFC authors should use the ALL-CAPS version of
these words - if for no other reason than because it removes any
possibility of doubt.  The evidence to support this is based at
least partly on current usage - such as a BCP like RFC 2119 is
meant to reflect.  It is also based at least in part on the the
arguments put forward in this thread.  And finally, it is based
at least in part on the common-sense proposition that anything
that adds clarity to a specification is generally a good thing.

Hence I believe the one thing we should take away from
this discussion is that - while use of the ALL-CAPS version of
the requriements level terminology in RFC 2119 is probably not
technically required to indicate the intended usage - it is a
very good idea to do this.  Further, if we assume that is the
case (and I think reasonable people will agree that it is),
then continuing the argument about the semantics in this case
is merely a distraction from useful discussion and clarity in
the work we all want to be doing.

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Eric Gray
Principal Engineer
Ericsson

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To: Randy Presuhn
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Subject: Re: SHOULD vs MUST case sensitivity



Randy Presuhn wrote:
>> English is not case sensitive.
>
> Not so.  Case has long been used for emphasis in environments
> lacking other typographical means, such as bolding, underlining,
> or italicization.


Emphasis is not semantics.

Normative intent is semantic.

d/
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  Dave Crocker
  Brandenburg InternetWorking
  bbiw.net
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