Hi, Hannes Tschofenig wrote: > >Hi Spencer, > > >> Hi, Hannes, >> >> I can't answer for Jonathan, but I wondered the same thing, and >> decided that the answer was probably one of >> >> - "well, if we all know this, what are we doing differently now that >> we know it?", or >> >> - "the GOOD news is that the wasp waist-hourglass is no longer HTTP" >> [RFC3205], or > >Well. In fact that I wanted to make a similar comment saying >that some people would argue that HTTP is the waist if your >communication needs to work in an enterprise setting as well. > True. *If* you want your application to work "everywhere", it better run on top of HTTP/TLS at least as a fallback. And for many types of applications the users clearly prefer that it works "everywhere", so the decision for instance for an IM client developer is not that hard. Markus _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx http://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf