Re: I-D Action:draft-carpenter-rfc2026-changes-02.txt]

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Brian -

Section 3.17 - is a good clarity tool for better clarifying the scope of these processes. But that same need for clarity also applies to 3.18 -

Section 3.18 - the Retention and Records Keeping section needs considerable rewording. There are three key issues to address in the operations of a mailing list and since these are not uniformly implemented the IETF is again liable IMHO for its relying on any IP through a mailing list based service.

The three issues are the 'integrity of the content that is managed' by the list operator. That means keeping the content in a reliable and provable set of submissions. It also as the second constraint is tagged with a retention period as well, i.e. a statement of how long the list operator commits to operate and maintain that list for. The reasoning is simple - all the participants in the WG have the right to recover that IP for some time from those sources, so there is an implied expectation that the list content is going to continue to be available. The third goochie is that the list particpants also have the right to identify the other 'legal participants' in the WG so the IP issues in the mailing list can be resolved.

So ... the wording needs to be amended to address the retention and integrity in operations requirements as well as any IPR or other declarations of 'representation' in the WG participation rules. This also makes some changes to the definitions for NoteWell too I think.

Todd Glassey


----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian E Carpenter" <brian.e.carpenter@xxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 6:23 PM
Subject: [Fwd: I-D Action:draft-carpenter-rfc2026-changes-02.txt]


Hi folks,

I produced this update at the request of Russ Housley. It's
considerably tightened up from the previous versions - now the
question is whether people are interested enough to comment...

   Brian

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: I-D Action:draft-carpenter-rfc2026-changes-02.txt
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 21:10:01 -0500
From: Internet-Drafts@xxxxxxxx
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To: i-d-announce@xxxxxxxx

A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.

Title : Changes to the Internet Standards Process defined by RFC 2026
Author(s)       : B. Carpenter
Filename        : draft-carpenter-rfc2026-changes-02.txt
Pages           : 28
Date            : 2008-01-16

This document defines a number of changes to RFC 2026, the basic
definition of the IETF standards process.  While some of them are
definite changes to the rules, the intention is to preserve the main
intent of the original rules, while adapting them to experience and
current practice.

A URL for this Internet-Draft is:
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-carpenter-rfc2026-changes-02.txt



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