Actually, I think the stronger complaints are about the fact that a meeting for another purpose will be disrupted by the sub set of folks who think they are obligated to try and get there lap top working because there is a network experiment overlayed on the meeting. Plenaries are already unwieldy at best. With an undercurrent of an 'official' activity there is the potential of nothing useful happening. As the IT department, and everything else, associated with my business there is no economic reason to be an early adopter. As a small business, I have no weight to make anything happen except discomfort for myself. If something like the proposal for setting up a working session in another context which won't disrrupt the plenary is arranged, I will consider bringing a second lap top which can be fiddled to whatever degree is necessary to evaluate IPv6 connectivity issues. IT departments are generally good at careful planning because they don't get paid to disrrupt the corporate IT infrastructure. They aren't likely to be motivated by IETF participant complaints about lack of IPv6 support UNLESS they are already trying to provision IPv6 and see this as a good test opportunity. My clients IT departments would simply provide EDGE/EVDO cards for those folks who couldn't be offline for an hour. The irony is that for IPV4 only folks, just disconnecting the network for an hour will have the same effect ... except they wouldn't be disrrupting the meeting trying to fix their laptops. Dave Morris On Fri, 21 Dec 2007, Christian Huitema wrote: > > Disrupting a meeting funded for a different purpose will/would be an > > offensive colossal waste of resources. > > I think some disruption is in order. > > The stronger argument I have heard against the proposed "IPv6 > interlude" is that it is not compatible with the services loaded on > participants' laptops by their enterprise's IT department. Fine. So > the participant will come back and send a note to their IT department, > complaining that lack of IPv6 support forced them to stop reading > corporate e-mail for an hour. Better warn them now. IT department are > notoriously conservative, and it takes warnings like that to get them > to move. > > -- Christian Huitema > > _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf