>>>>> "Narayanan," == Narayanan, Vidya <vidyan@xxxxxxxxxxxx> writes: Narayanan,> Dan, There is a fundamental security property in all Narayanan,> that we have been discussing: Narayanan,> It MUST NOT be possible for an entity A, impersonating Narayanan,> as entity B, to obtain any key material that entity B Narayanan,> may actually possess at any time. I continue to believe the model you are using is too simplistic to have the discussion you're having. We're focusing on issues that arrise when entities have multiple identities in different namespaces. At least, that is the focus of the text I'm asking for discussion about. i don't understand how you can discuss that text without a model that involves entities with multiple names. I'm going to meet with Lakshminath on Sunday and then make a consensus call. --Sam _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf