Ole, > Just to add to Dave's comments: The information provided needs to be > based on "reality" rather than hyperbole. A bunch of us just returned > from Bali which according to the US State Department is a place you > should not even think about visiting, and required Senior VP approval > to go. Yet, I am sure none of us ever felt in the slightest bit of > danger. > Right. Everyone: the IETF is an international organization with participants around the globe. It is natural that we go to different places. Sometimes you have to go far, sometimes close. I think we should expect ourselves to be able to travel to different parts of the developed world, including places like major cities in EU, North America, or Asia. All of them will be slightly different, so its good to get some advise about the local conditions beforehand. But there will be some issues everywhere, be it pickpockets, taxi drivers, traffic dangers, murder rate in the bad neighborhoods, heat, cold, or boredom. Get over it. I think we should boldly go where no IETF has gone before (but millions of other people have, safely). Jari _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf