--On Wednesday, 31 January, 2007 17:02 +0000 "Steven M. Bellovin" <smb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 11:54:26 -0500 > John C Klensin <john-ietf@xxxxxxx> wrote: > >> >> Except for the fact that the material being cited contains the >> specifics of license and IPR releases, and promises to abide >> by certain rules, by the authors. Authors can't reasonably be >> asked to agree to something that might be published under the >> BCP number in the indefinite future, so you are either stuck >> with a document (RFC) number or a BCP as of a specific date, >> which amounts to the same thing and is harder to track down. >> > > I'll let Jorge correct me if I'm wrong, but referencing by > <number,date> is the norm in the legal world, since statutes > do get amended without necessarily being renumbered. I believe that is correct. The problem here is that, as a consequence of that referencing system, they have taken measures to be sure that the version corresponding to the reference is readily available. We don't do that: finding out what was actually BCP NNN on some particular date requires both skill and out of band knowledge. > I do agree we want to make it easy for non-lawyers. I've > suggested a date-stamped archive of each version of each such > document, for precisely that reason. That, of course, would do that job and eliminate all of my objections. But it does mean that, for many purposes, we can't use a reference to "BCP nnnn", it must be a reference to "BCP nnnn as of yyyymmdd" or its equivalent. john _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf