Brian E Carpenter wrote:
Michael, 1. ADs physically don't have time to read intermediate drafts oustide their own Area. So while they may suspect that a WG is heading in a worrisome direction, they aren't in a position to do much about it. 2. ADs are collectively instructed by our rules to act as the reviewers of last resort - it's the IESG that takes the final responsibility to say a document is good enough. 3. Unfortunately, WGs do sometimes agree on drafts that prove to have signifcant defects when critically reviewed outside the WG. Put these facts together and you *will* get a reasonable rate of significant (i.e. hard to resolve) DISCUSSes, and in the nature of things they will come from ADs outside the Area concerned.
Brian -- My focus was actually a lot more narrow: I wasn't trying to insist that AD's be super-human, and I honestly believe that the job they do is extremely difficult. My gripe is when an outside AD takes an interest in the work, goes to the f2f meetings, maybe reads the drafts but then waits to IESG evaluation time to DISCUSS their issues. If they know they have a problem(s), it would be *far* better to air that sooner rather than later for all parties concerned. Doing this leads to the perception of a imperious and capricious IESG. This is a very different situation where you get a DISCUSS where it's a surprise to all parties from an AD not involved at all; the former should have been resolved before it got to last call, the latter is the process working correctly. IMO. Mike _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf