>>>>> "Hallam-Baker," == Hallam-Baker, Phillip <pbaker@xxxxxxxxxxxx> writes: Hallam-Baker,> If you have a chair who is doing their job properly Hallam-Baker,> and honestly this need not be a problem. The Hallam-Baker,> process pretty much fails if the chair is part of Hallam-Baker,> the obstructionist minority. And here's the crux of the matter. The process does depend on the chair trying to build consensus. If that's not happening, talk to your AD or talk to the community. And be specific. I realize you have been in various cases. Sometimes people have agreed with you; sometimes they have seen things differently. _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf