>>>>> "Eliot" == Eliot Lear <lear@xxxxxxxxx> writes: Eliot> Brian, >> But I think there is a message here - badly phrased perhaps - that >> running code is needed for such proposals to be thoroughly considered. >> Suppose there was a proposal that all RFCs should be sourced as XML >> files. We have a lot of running code to measure that proposal against. >> Douglas Otis started work on running code for his alternative to ISDs. >> I'm sure that's the best way to bring ideas in this space forward. Eliot> In general I agree that running code is the strongest indicator - one Eliot> way or another. This having been said, process experiments with the Eliot> document series are troublesome, because at the end of the experiment we Eliot> are left in a situation where we have to clean it up, usually by further Eliot> annotating the documents in some way that hopefully does not go against Eliot> the intentions of prior decisions. Tricky stuff. Eliot I look forward to reading your draft with interest. However, I expect that I'll read it, agree with parts of it and go recommend you run an experiment on it. That, even given your concerns about running experiments with the document series. _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf