>>>>> "Leslie" == Leslie Daigle <leslie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
Leslie> Sam,
Leslie> Some high-level responses, and I'm sure we'll hear other
Leslie> input:
Leslie> 1/ I think you're overlooking something in "IETF pays for
Leslie> RFC Editor"; RFC Editor has been paid by ISOC for years,
Leslie> and *that* largely comes out of contributions from
Leslie> corporations. We actually have no data beyond the fact
Leslie> that they support the RFC Editor as currently constituted
Leslie> (i.e., including independent submissions).
Leslie> We've already heard (in IETF discussion in March) input
Leslie> that no in fact the IETF does not get to define the
Leslie> *in*dependent submission process; one purpose of the
Leslie> planned discussion is to ensure that the process is not at
Leslie> odds with the IETF's standards needs, but that is very
Leslie> different than having the IETF define it, as you describe.
OK. I was not paying that much attention in March,and if I'm too late,
I certainly have no problem with the community choosing to allow a
broader group to control the independent submission track, or to seed
that to the IAB.
I think though that the community ultimately needs to have the power
to take back anything it has given. Basically, I think it is critical
that ultimately everything within the greater IETF context be
accountable to the IETF community. That is true of the IESG, the IAB
and everything they do.
I don't think this document represents that.
--Sam
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