Hi Julien, Well, that's not the case in Spain. If instead of Madrid I'm in small city like Valencia, Murcia, Bilbao, etc., typically the cost different will be only 10-15 Euros more. The companies make the money from the big hop, and if necessary subsidize part of the small one to sell more seats. At the end in any case is not so easy, because it will depend on agreements among airlines, from and to, etc. For example, Minneapolis is more expensive for me, because I need to fly to Amsterdam to get a cheaper fare. Instead Latinamerican cities or a couple of US locations, can be below 400 Euros and even a single hop from Madrid. Definitively, from Europe, for me seems the most expensive Australia, then Asia Pacific/Africa, but may be is only the case of if the "from" is Spain, because typically I will need to fly first to Amsterdam, London, Paris or Frankfurt. Regards, Jordi > De: Julien Laganier <julien.IETF@xxxxxxxxxxx> > Responder a: <ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx> > Fecha: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 15:52:09 +0200 > Para: "ietf@xxxxxxxx" <ietf@xxxxxxxx>, <jordi.palet@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Asunto: Re: Making IETF happening in different regions > > Jordi, > > You are speaking about low cost flights. I am sure they are readily > available from/to any capital like Madrid, but what about other > places. When I want to go from a secondary french city to a secondary > city in germany without over the week-end stay (say monday-thursday) > the prices can start at 500 euros or more, even if booked three > months in advance. > > What I tried to say is that w.r.t. price, the continent location seems > to matter more or less the same than the number of airlines going > there. A major city with lot of connecting flights (Minneapolis ;) is > much more cheaper to flight to than a secondary city. > > You seems to agree since you mentioned below European flights between > European capitals. > > --julien > > On Wednesday 29 March 2006 14:49, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote: >> Hi Julien, >> >> I guess is a question of planning. >> >> I tend to book my flights at least 3 months ahead. >> >> Then a flight Madrid-Europe-Madrid, for example, could be so law as >> 80 Euros (replace Europe with Munich, London, Paris, Brussels, or >> any other preferred EU destination). >> >> For the same period (a week, including Saturday night), >> Madrid-Dallas-Madrid is about 550 Euros. >> >> This typically works also just purchasing 5-6 weeks ahead of the >> flight departure. >> >> Regards, >> Jordi >> >>> De: Julien Laganier <julien.IETF@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Responder a: <ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx> >>> Fecha: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 14:13:40 +0200 >>> Para: "ietf@xxxxxxxx" <ietf@xxxxxxxx>, >>> <jordi.palet@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Asunto: Re: Making IETF happening in >>> different regions >>> >>> Hi Jordi, >>> >>> On Friday 24 March 2006 06:10, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote: >>>> Not really. If you look to the recent sponsors, the current one >>>> and the next one, they are all European companies, hosting IETF >>>> in North America. >>>> >>>> Actually it can be presented in the other way around, as they >>>> host here, 50% of the attendees are getting indirectly >>>> subsidized by those sponsors decision to host here because their >>>> travel expenses are lower. So the cost for the participants from >>>> the rest of the world is higher. >>> >>> I do not agree that the cost for "rest of the world" participants >>> is necessarily higher when me meet in US. It is usually cheaper >>> for me to travel from EU to US than to travel from EU to EU. For >>> example I paid 350 euros and 460 euros to go from France to >>> Washington DC and San Francisco, respectively. That's more or >>> less the minimum I am used to pay for intra-EU trips. >>> >>> So it rather seems that the cost of intercontinental flights is >>> low when there is a lot of different carriers (competition!) on >>> the hub-to-hub intercontinental trunk of the trip. >>> >>> My two cents. >>> >>> -- julien >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Ietf mailing list >>> Ietf@xxxxxxxx >>> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf >> >> ********************************************** >> The IPv6 Portal: http://www.ipv6tf.org >> >> Barcelona 2005 Global IPv6 Summit >> Slides available at: >> http://www.ipv6-es.com >> >> This electronic message contains information which may be >> privileged or confidential. The information is intended to be for >> the use of the individual(s) named above. 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