Noel, Please recall that IP addresses are currently serving two semantic functions: Locator and Identity. I interpreted Keith's posting to be speaking of the latter. (e.g., HIP) --Eric -----Original Message----- From: Noel Chiappa [mailto:jnc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 11:45 AM To: ietf@xxxxxxxx Cc: jnc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Stupid NAT tricks and how to stop them. > From: Keith Moore <moore@xxxxxxxxxx> > even if IP had identifiers for hosts that were independent of > locators, they wouldn' t be worth very much without a way to map them > to locators. and locators are a lot easier to deal with if they're > location-independent. Huh? Did you mean "identifiers are a lot easier to deal with if they're location-independent"? If that wasn't a typo, and you really meant what you said, the whole *point* of locators is to include location information. A "locator [which is] location-independent" is an completely oxymoron. Noel _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf