Re: The IETF Trust License is too restricted

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On Thu, 8 Dec 2005, Simon Josefsson wrote:

> Sam Hartman <hartmans-ietf@xxxxxxx> writes:
>
> >>>>>> "Simon" == Simon Josefsson <jas@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
> >
> >     Simon> Harald Tveit Alvestrand <harald@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
> >     >> --On tirsdag, desember 06, 2005 13:07:50 +0100 Simon Josefsson
> >     >> <jas@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >     >>
> >     >>> I'd feel more comfortable if the outbounds right issue was
> >     >>> settled, before all IPR is signed away to some external body
> >     >>> that, to me, it seem unclear whether the IETF has total
> >     >>> control over.
> >     >>  Remember that it's signed away FROM bodies that the IETF has
> >     >> NO control over.
> >
> >     Simon> My point was that before drafting what conditions the IETF
> >     Simon> Trust should operate under, we should know what kind of
> >     Simon> permissions we want the IETF Trust to be able to grant.
> >
> > I think it is sufficient the trust be able to operate under any set of
> > outbound rights we come up with.
>
> That won't be possible, given the current (and even the updated) IETF
> Trust agreement.
>
> The IETF may decide that third parties should be given rights to all
> contributions, not only to RFCs/I-Ds.
>
> Currently, the IETF Trust would be unable to comply to such a wish
> from the IETF, because the Trust agreement prevent them from doing so.

explain please, I don't understand this.

Straw man?

> Thanks,
> Simon
>
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