Harald Tveit Alvestrand <harald@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes: > --On tirsdag, desember 06, 2005 13:07:50 +0100 Simon Josefsson > <jas@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> I'd feel more comfortable if the outbounds right issue was settled, >> before all IPR is signed away to some external body that, to me, it >> seem unclear whether the IETF has total control over. > > Remember that it's signed away FROM bodies that the IETF has NO > control over. My point was that before drafting what conditions the IETF Trust should operate under, we should know what kind of permissions we want the IETF Trust to be able to grant. The updated text now permit the IETF Trust to grant rights to Standard documents without requiring the licensee to grant back all rights to derivative works. When looking into what copying conditions the IETF should grant to third parties, we may reach consensus on giving third parties the rights to other Contributions as well, not only RFC and I-Ds. The IETF Trust can never, under the current legal document, give any third party that license. I believe the IETF Trust should be able to grant unrestricted perpetual sub-licenses for all rights to third parties. The IETF Trust doesn't have to use that right, but should be able to, if the IETF community decide if that is what we want. Thanks, Simon _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf