> There's a difference between "take our course and we certify that you > are an engineer" and "my job title is engineer". Not in Canada. The word itself is regulated and can not be used in a job title or function unless you are a member of their engineers society. A candle maker can not call himself a candle engineer and if he does he can be taken to court. For non-certification/non Microsoft related example go here and read the fourth paragraph from the bottom or simply go to the ccpe web site. http://www.oiq.qc.ca/whatsnew/afficher-communiques.html?441 I won't respond again listwide on this thread as this was meant to be a one-off joke not a game of who's smarter than who. Nick _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf