Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: > You must be kidding. I doubt it, some of "us" really support the 1591 "spirit": TLDs manage their affairs as it pleases them, but public whois data must be correct. It's also desirable (but not required in all TLDs) to publish it with a whois server. Everybody is free to draw his conclusions where that's not the case (and for ICANN's gTLDs that's not allowed, they offer the WDPRS for such issues). > most information in it is plainly wrong: > Reporting-MTA: dns; mx2.nic.fr > Arrival-Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 11:42:56 +0200 (CEST) > > Final-Recipient: rfc822; HOSTMASTER@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Action: failed > Status: 5.0.0 So what ? Move 3912 to historic because it talks about the known mil.whois.rfc-ignorant.org in its example, which at best suffices as a _counter-example_ ? `rxwhois -h whois.nic.mil nic.mil` sock errno 61: Connection refused Yes, I reported this to hostmaster@ about a year ago - zero feedack. And no, it wasn't me who submitted MIL to rfc-ignorant.org. My bulk TLD submission last month was because I _disagree_ with the DE entry (after they added ? explaining the I18N options) and because I hate double standards. Move 3912 to historic, because it claims erroneously that I18N for whois is impossible ? One of the authors of the draft in the subject _proved_ that it's possible, no matter what the RFCI admin thinks about it. > The rest, as mentioned by Harald Alverstrand, is just policy > requirments (and bad ones) which are NOT IETF business. 3912 was submitted by the IAB Chair, claiming that this isn't IETF business is utter dubious. BTW, I can understand that you'd like to remove the IETF from the picture, ICANN etc. are probably bad enough. OTOH there was never a whois problem with one of "your" TLDs as far as I can tell it, and yes, I even watched TF (also a nice example for some of the more surreal threads in LTRU ;-) Bye, Frank <http://purl.net/xyzzy/rxwhois.htm#v18> "updated whois.nic.tf" _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf