Hi, I think that despite if the people are working with company money or their own they should be able to estimate if they can have enough time to spend on the effort. Also they should have an "easy way out" when they notice that e.g. for a change in their lives they cannot commit that much time anymore. For instance, there are some people that are better than others in the beginning phases of a draft (great innovators, leaders, who can drive new things), however, they may not be the best to drive out the last nits of a draft. Maybe there should be an easy way to handover the draft editorship without feeling that you have let the whole community down. Cheers, Jonne. On Fri, 2005-06-17 at 18:11, ext wayne wrote: > In <000601c57340$18daa290$0500a8c0@DFNJGL21> "Spencer Dawkins" <spencer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes: > > > Henning Schulzrinne wrote: > > > >> Brian E Carpenter wrote: > >> > >>> To be blunt, I believe this is a direct consequence of our open > >>> door, individual participation ethic. [...] > >> > >> At least in the areas where I hang out, almost all participants are > >> paid for by (large) companies. The work is being done on company > >> time and companies often claim credit for their contributions to > >> standards bodies. We are not the local soup kitchen where people > >> serve for charity's sake. > > In the particular areas where I hang out, a great deal of the most > active participants are not being paid to do the work. I, personally, > volunteer my own time to try and help fix certain problems on the > Internet and all of the costs come out of my own pocket. > > > > Agree with Henning, with one addition - some IETF participants DO > > participate on their own time and on their own dime, but even > > participants who are paying their own way want to see progress. > > Indeed, I think those of us who have donated a significant amount of > our own time and money are *more* interested in seeing progress. We > can not afford to have things drag on for years. > > > -wayne > > > _______________________________________________ > Ietf mailing list > Ietf@xxxxxxxx > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf -- Jonne Soininen Nokia Tel: +358 40 527 46 34 E-mail: jonne.soininen@xxxxxxxxx _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf