Re: WG management

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Agree with Henning, with one addition - some IETF participants DO participate on their own time and on their own dime, but even participants who are paying their own way want to see progress.

Please, ask for these commitments. If a company moves someone and they are no longer able to meet the commitment, it's easier for them to ask to be relieved if the alternative is failing to meet explicit commitments. We don't have to have corporate commitments to have commitments.

If we send the message that a specification is needed "eventually", why would anyone - sponsored or not - make it a priority?

Spencer

Henning Schulzrinne wrote:

Brian E Carpenter wrote:

To be blunt, I believe this is a direct consequence of our open door, individual participation ethic. If you want firm resource commitments, you have to ask corporations and other organizations, not individuals, to make the commitment. When you have firm corporate commitments, you can do resource planning. It becomes a different game. This is definitely
a case of being careful what you wish for.

At least in the areas where I hang out, almost all participants are paid for by (large) companies. The work is being done on company time and companies often claim credit for their contributions to standards bodies. We are not the local soup kitchen where people serve for charity's sake. One would hope that somebody taking on significant resource commitments clears this with their management if it is not already part of their job description.

Given the effective monopoly of the pen granted to authors, the community has, I believe, a right to expect timely delivery in return. This is no different from, say, being asked to chair a conference in the IEEE and ACM - unpaid volunteers, but there's a very definite expectation of performance, and mechanisms to "encourage" such performance.

There is the old saw about the "bias of low expectations". We compete for time with other commitments authors (and WG chairs) have. If we convey the message, implicitly at least, that our work can wait, it will wait.

Henning



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