In <000601c57340$18daa290$0500a8c0@DFNJGL21> "Spencer Dawkins" <spencer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes: > Henning Schulzrinne wrote: > >> Brian E Carpenter wrote: >> >>> To be blunt, I believe this is a direct consequence of our open >>> door, individual participation ethic. [...] >> >> At least in the areas where I hang out, almost all participants are >> paid for by (large) companies. The work is being done on company >> time and companies often claim credit for their contributions to >> standards bodies. We are not the local soup kitchen where people >> serve for charity's sake. In the particular areas where I hang out, a great deal of the most active participants are not being paid to do the work. I, personally, volunteer my own time to try and help fix certain problems on the Internet and all of the costs come out of my own pocket. > Agree with Henning, with one addition - some IETF participants DO > participate on their own time and on their own dime, but even > participants who are paying their own way want to see progress. Indeed, I think those of us who have donated a significant amount of our own time and money are *more* interested in seeing progress. We can not afford to have things drag on for years. -wayne _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf