> >>At the same time for each AD there is more than one person in the > >>IETF who is more technically astute than that AD. > > > > perhaps. however, it's hard to identify those people, > > They're the ones disagreeing with the ADs in some cases ;-) The set of people disagreeing with ADs include both technically astute people and egocentric fools. Depending on whom you ask, you'll get differing opinions as who which people are in which category. > > and they may not > > have either the time/energy or neutrality that are required to do final > > review. > > Neutrality is a two-way street; it is required for ADs too, and they, > just like individuals, have had (and continue to have) their pet > perspectives. There's more than one kind of neutrality. The kind of neutrality I was talking about was one that would not inherently favor one vendor's approach over another, or would not favor one of multiple equally-valid approaches over another. However, there's nothing whatsoever wrong with an AD having a technical opinion that one approach is more valid than another. That's their job. > > if they do, they're free to put their names in the hat for the > > next NOMCOM. > > So the message is "get your employer to ante 80% of your time to the > IETF, or keep your expertise to yourself"? Nope. The message is that if you are technically astute and have enough time to review lots of documents from different areas, you will probably end up on IESG. OTOH, if you don't have enough time to review large numbers of documents from different areas, you aren't likely to have a sufficently broad perspective to warrant allowing you to override the opinions of those who do. Of course you can still contribute your expertise in numerous ways - by participating in WG discussions, sending comments to WGs you don't participate regularly in, sending Last Call comments, sending comments to IESG well in advance of Last Call, submitting your own drafts, etc. All of these are highly appreciated, and some of them - particularly Last Call comments - carry considerable weight. But just because you are enamored with (your opinion of) your expertise doesn't mean that you get to have your work endorsed by the entire organization without having it reviewed by people who attempt to make sure that it makes sense from a broad perspective. Keith _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf