> Only if we view this top-down. If the role of the ADs is to make sure a > doc gets reviewed, they can hand it to a WG or a separate "non WG set of > reviewers". as I said before, this doesn't solve the problem, it just moves it. there absolutely needs to be a program committee for documents if we care at all about quality. it doesn' t have to be IESG, but any program committee is going to have most of the problems that IESG has. and I don't believe that you can entirely separate management/oversight and review. Keith _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf