-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Keith Moore wrote: >>Why isn't a larger number of "ADs" - or, more specifically, removing the >>review process from the ADs and having a real review group, the solution >>here? > > > The more ADs there are, the more things get bogged down at the IESG > level. ADs need to come to a mutual understanding about what are > reasonable criteria for acceptance of a document (in general and/or for > a specific document), and this is harder when you have more people who > have to agree. More ADs also mean that telechats take longer. > > Also, the more ADs there are to provide some kind of "guidance" to a WG, > the more confusing things become for that group. It would be a bit > like a business having multiple managers with direct authority over the > same employee - if the managers don't coordinate well the employees get > caught in the middle. > > Moving the process to a real review group at best just moves the > problem - since the WG is ultimately interested in getting the > documents by the review group, those individuals become the people whom > the WGs will consider their managers. So the IESG either becomes > irrelevant (in which case we have essentially moved the IESG's > functionality to the review group) or it starts trying to produce meta- > advice - something close to architectural guidance (in which case it > overlaps IAB's role). > > Note that I didn't say that it couldn't be done, I said it was a > difficult problem. Only if we view this top-down. If the role of the ADs is to make sure a doc gets reviewed, they can hand it to a WG or a separate "non WG set of reviewers". Guidance is just that; not control. The IESG doesn't become irrelevant, but it ceases to be a program committee for documents, which is, I believe, a good thing. Joe -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFCbteBE5f5cImnZrsRAhxkAKD4x8lfKJzaEfxp/x09coNWj/JerQCg/lPd Ia/iMZXzAD51kg0+ayQpwMw= =vwzm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf