Hi - Just so we're clear, I think a mass execution procedure is a bad idea. Serial executions are much better: these people got seated one by one, and if you don't like them, each one should get their own trial and sentence. Changing 3777 to allow group trials seems like a task well beyond the current exercise, which should be focused on how to get the IAOC on board and functioning. I fully expect that our founding fodders on the IAOC will do a great job and that we should focus on building this particular bridge instead of establishing procedures for burning it down. Regards, Carl > Carl Malamud wrote: > >>The one thing that I agree sticks out is that the language of 3777 talks > >>about firing *one* person - in the case where the group is dysfunctional, > >>it may be better to take the group out, as you say. > >> > > > > > > I think if there is enough momentum to engage in these procedures, it won't > > be hard to take them out one by one. I think that's better than firing an > > entire group. Individual accountability is a good thing. > > > > If we do the "take out the whole group" procedure, might as well have a similar > > procedure for the IESG and the IAB. > > There aren't so many IAOC members. The group of 20 petitioners can easily > send in simultaneous recall petitions for all of them. For that matter, > the same is true of IAB and IESG recalls - a little cut and paste goes > a long way. Actually, I think Carl is correct - a very slight tweak > to the wording of 3777 would allow it to apply to one or more people. > > I don't presume that firing the whole committee is more likely than > firing one individual who is causing problems. > > Brian > _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf