>>>>> "Vernon" == Vernon Schryver <vjs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes: >> From: Sam Hartman <hartmans-ietf@xxxxxxx> No, currently this >> draft is in Ted's hands. It makes no sense for people to >> withdraw drafts or to make any hasty decisions at all. Vernon> That's fine, but does suggest some questions: Vernon> - Is the Last Call over? The answer to this question is clearly yes. You can see this for yourself in the ID tracker. What this means is a bit unclear. If someone brought up a new comment that pointed out a new critical defect in the specification, the IESG would almost certainly consider the comment even though it was received after the last call period. However it is probably not useful to continue existing discussions of the draft. Vernon> - If so, was its result "no supporting consensus"? That's hard to answer or put another way, things don't quite work in such a way that that question has an easy answer. Procedurally speaking the responsible AD (Ted in this case) decides what to do next. He can ask for revisions; he can talk to the authors; he can try to create a working group; he can tell the authors he will not sponsor the draft; he can issue a ballot and put the draft on the IESG agenda. Those options are intended to be a fairly exaustive list of what an AD could do after any last call and are not intended to express any opinion about the current document. So, at some level you will just have to wait to learn Ted's opinion of the situation; the rest of us are also waiting for the same thing. Note that there are procedural safeguards. If an AD brings a document to the IESG that is not ready, other IESG members can object. If the IESG approves a document that is not ready, the community can appeal the decision. If an AD proposes a new working group, the community, IAB and IESG get to review the proposed working group. I hope this helps you understand the process. --Sam _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf