>> Noel Chiappa wrote: >> The IETF needs to seriously face the reality of the >> network that's really out there, not the network some >> of us wish were there. > grenville armitage wrote: > I imagine any number of circuit-switching Telco-types > said much the same thing to the emerging packet-switching > fanatics 30+ years ago. And I know B-ISDN types said the > same to "Internet fanatics" 15+ years ago. I think you missed the point. As of today, IPv6 is in the same situation ISDN has always been: I Still Don't Need. ^ ^ ^ ^ ISDN which 10 years ago was supposed to be the digital miracle that would save us from the analog crap and take over the world never took off because the price was not worth the gain, the majority of phones and dial-up still are analog and now ISDN costs _more_ than DSL or cable for low-end data. Michel. _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf