Hi John,
John C Klensin wrote:
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--On Monday, 18 October, 2004 12:43 -0400 Michael Richardson <mcr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I wonder if it wouldn't just be simpler to have the WG chair
submit the -00 document themselves, as a placeholder for the
actual document. This can be done as soon as the WG believes
that the should exist. That gets rid of the back-and-forth between chair, author
and secretariat.
It seems to me that this is one of the reasons why discussion of these proposals/plans with the community is important. It is not just a matter of approval of a new rule (although that is important), but the fact that the community can often come up with clever solutions that the Secretariat, or IESG, on their own, might not discover. I don't know if it would be worth the trouble, but "either get WG chair pre-approval a week in advance _or_ the WG Chair must submit the document" would seem to me to be a much more reasonable rule than the current one, which encourages individual-submission naming, followed by reissuing of an identical document under the WG name, which makes documents harder to track.
I don't have any input on exactly how, originated by whom, the current deadlines have come to be.
However, if we're starting to discuss the mechanics of what might
be done to move the deadlines closer to the meetings again, I'd like to point out that the ietf tools team, as it's first task, has been formulating requirements for a tool to automate draft
submission, so that secretariat workload can be eliminated
or severely reduced as a factor in draft posting deadlines (and
WG chair approval deadlines).
The requirements are documented in draft-ietf-tools-draft-submission, currently out in revision -04:
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-tools-draft-submission-04.txt
We believe that the requirements are close to done, and hope that the tool can be produced and deployed fairly soon. This should make the draft posting deadlines a matter of deciding what is optimal for the community. The tool should make both posting and chair approval possible as close to the meeting dates as is found to be desirable.
Regards, Henrik
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