-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>>>> "John" == John C Klensin <john-ietf@xxxxxxx> writes: John> "As always, all initial submissions (-00) with a John> filename beginning with "draft-ietf" must be approved by the John> appropriate WG Chair before they can be processed or John> announced. WG Chair approval must be received by Monday, John> October 11 at 9:00 AM ET." John> First of all, this isn't "as always". The rule requiring John> explicit WG Chair approval is fairly recent. But, more John> important, we now have a situation in which WG drafts -- John> presumably the most important documents for the face to face John> meetings-- now require formal naming, authorization, and I wonder if it wouldn't just be simpler to have the WG chair submit the -00 document themselves, as a placeholder for the actual document. This can be done as soon as the WG believes that the should exist. That gets rid of the back-and-forth between chair, author and secretariat. John> As we continue to discuss problems and issues that get in the John> way of our getting effective work done, it seems to me that John> this is a new one that should be added to the list. John> Also, in the context of administrative reorganization, I would John> find it helpful, and others might too, to understand where John> this new requirement came from: I would like answers to the same question. I will say that having the rather early deadline means, as a submitter that I have to get my work done sooner, and this leaves *me* more time to read documents before the meeting. (ps: I'm taking the train from Toronto via NYC on Sunday, November 7th. I have a 20 minute allocation to change changes at Penn station, which I fear that Amtrak won't make. And I am trying to catch the last train that night to DC. I fear that I'll be sitting in Penn station all night reading drafts... Any locals got any advice?) - -- ] "Elmo went to the wrong fundraiser" - The Simpson | firewalls [ ] Michael Richardson, Xelerance Corporation, Ottawa, ON |net architect[ ] mcr@xxxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca/mcr/ |device driver[ ] panic("Just another Debian GNU/Linux using, kernel hacking, security guy"); [ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Finger me for keys iQCVAwUBQXPyv4qHRg3pndX9AQGlSQP+OEwka8uWs4TbZ83VgX4JsKr7buTmtmMZ qt9G32QLZU4gXsiwEfx1/l+5LhMUb5Fngzfv3AC5pCqgO+JeXXPKS+SxlNWeekAu gFU7mN0vrJu4oKMDP2+8ukGMy63teXH8JcLbkQgyLHasz5TbbJHkoDZ25AB4ZbAn UlE3XCDRhic= =k45B -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf