On Tue, Oct 29, 2024 at 6:30 PM John Levine <johnl@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > It appears that Ted Lemon <mellon@xxxxxxxxx> said: > >-=-=-=-=-=- > > > >Right, this is my exact point: there is no reason for us not to do this. > > I remain impressed that people are eager to casually mandate incompatible > breaking changes in a forty year old protocol that is used all over the world. > > While I entirely agree that people should use STARTTLS when sending mail over > the public Internet, and the A/S says so, I do not know all of the nooks and > crannies where people use SMTP, neither do you, and neither does anyone else. > > I can easily imagine scenarios where STARTTLS makes no sense, and I see no > reason to gratuitously declare their existing working systems are no longer > standard compliant. It just makes us look arrogant and out of touch. > > Leave STARTTLS in the A/S where it belongs and let us finish this thing. Is there a forward reference to the A/S in the security considerations here? > > R's, > John > > -- > last-call mailing list -- last-call@xxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send an email to last-call-leave@xxxxxxxx -- Astra mortemque praestare gradatim -- last-call mailing list -- last-call@xxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to last-call-leave@xxxxxxxx