[Last-Call] Re: [Emailcore] Re: Re: Re: SECDIR Review of draft-ietf-emailcore-rfc5321bis-31

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On Mon, 28 Oct 2024, Eric Rescorla wrote:
As I said, I'd prefer the security considerations in this document to be
complete but I could live with them being in a separate document provided
there was a normative reference to said document. If you don't think that's
a valid alternative, then I think the appropriate resolution is to properly
update the security considerations in this document.

Keeping in mind that this protocol is 40 years old, and most of the security issues are addressed higher up the stack than the SMTP level, who do you see as the targets or beneficiaries of that update?

The only significant thing I can think of that happens at the SMTP level is TLS security, so I suppose it could point to STARTTLS, which is described in RFC 3207, and to encourage people to use TLS, mention MTA-STS which is in RFCs 8460 and 8461, or TLSA, which is in RFCs 6698 and 7671. Those are all optional extensions, not part of the protocol described here.

I could certainly see a separate document that gives an overview of the state of mail security, but stuffing it into this revision of 5321 seems like process for process' sake.

Regards,
John Levine, johnl@xxxxxxxxx, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies",
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