It appears that Ted Lemon <mellon@xxxxxxxxx> said: >-=-=-=-=-=- > >Right, this is my exact point: there is no reason for us not to do this. I remain impressed that people are eager to casually mandate incompatible breaking changes in a forty year old protocol that is used all over the world. While I entirely agree that people should use STARTTLS when sending mail over the public Internet, and the A/S says so, I do not know all of the nooks and crannies where people use SMTP, neither do you, and neither does anyone else. I can easily imagine scenarios where STARTTLS makes no sense, and I see no reason to gratuitously declare their existing working systems are no longer standard compliant. It just makes us look arrogant and out of touch. Leave STARTTLS in the A/S where it belongs and let us finish this thing. R's, John -- last-call mailing list -- last-call@xxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to last-call-leave@xxxxxxxx
