[Last-Call] Re: Last Call: BCP 83 PR-Action for Timothy Mcsweeney

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On 12 Jun 2024, at 15:52, Salz, Rich wrote:

>> I personally still have not returned to the IETF list.
>
> That's highly unfortunate in my opinion. I do not understand how someone can feel themselves to be in the leadership of an organization without participating, or at least reading, the one general-purpose public forum that organization has.
>
>> The biggest problem of BCP38 is that every sane normal action to restrict abuse results in more toxic discussions that a certain amount of abuse should be tolerated in the name of anti-censorship, lack of hard headedness of the victims and supposed technical merit of the abusers.
>
> This view, when expressed by someone with such a limited view of the organization, carries almost no weight with me.
>
> Anyone on the IESG who does not follow the IETF list should abstain from voting on all PR actions.

In the past five years, only 7% of IETF participants have posted to the IETF list (defining a participant as someone who sent email to any IETF mailing list).

In the same time period, 30% of the messages sent to the IETF list came from 10 people.

Colin

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