Whatever. > On 06/12/2024 3:47 PM GMT Pete Resnick <resnick@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > Tim, > > I repeat: I am not sending that information in email. Please listen to > the voicemail. > > Alternatively, let's set up a call. You may ask whatever questions you > desire at the top of the call and decide whether you are willing to > proceed with the discussion or not. > > Pete and Sofía > > On 12 Jun 2024, at 10:45, Timothy Mcsweeney wrote: > > > NO, what did it say? > > > > > >> On 06/12/2024 11:42 AM EDT Pete Resnick <resnick@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> > >> > >> Tim, > >> > >> Did you receive the voicemail I just left? > >> > >> Pete > >> > >> On 12 Jun 2024, at 10:40, Timothy Mcsweeney wrote: > >> > >>> Pete & Sofia, > >>> Based on what you just wrote, you don't understand, (or you're a > >>> practicing wordsmith). Please read it again if you have too and > >>> answer the question so we can move forward. > >>> > >>> Tim > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> On 06/12/2024 11:33 AM EDT Pete Resnick <resnick@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Tim, > >>>> > >>>> Ah! I re-read and I think I understand: You are saying that once we > >>>> tell > >>>> you whether the report is about a group/class, then we can set up > >>>> the > >>>> phone call. As I said earlier, we are trying to keep information on > >>>> the > >>>> report as confidential as possible, so I will not reveal any > >>>> details > >>>> of > >>>> the report via email. I have left the answer on your voicemail. > >>>> When, > >>>> and by what means, would you like to have the discussion? > >>>> > >>>> Pete & Sofía > >>>> > >>>> On 12 Jun 2024, at 10:20, Pete Resnick wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Tim, > >>>>> > >>>>> I'm not sure I understand what you mean by "the only thing between > >>>>> you > >>>>> and I having a phone call is the answer to that question". Are you > >>>>> saying that you are declining to have a phone discussion with us > >>>>> about > >>>>> the report? > >>>>> > >>>>> Pete & Sofía > >>>>> > >>>>> On 12 Jun 2024, at 10:16, Timothy Mcsweeney wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> Pete & Sofia, > >>>>>> I've re-read RFC7776 and the only thing between you and I having > >>>>>> a > >>>>>> phone call is the answer to that question. Its not like you are > >>>>>> identifying individuals. So please, I would like to get on with > >>>>>> things here. What class/group is the subject of this harrasment > >>>>>> report? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Tim > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> On 06/12/2024 11:09 AM EDT Pete Resnick <resnick@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > >>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Hi Tim, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> We will answer further questions when we are able to discuss > >>>>>>> this > >>>>>>> confidentially on a call. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Pete and Sofía > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On 12 Jun 2024, at 9:49, Timothy Mcsweeney wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> **last email had a typo > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Pete, Sofia, > >>>>>>>> If the Subect of this particular report is a group or class > >>>>>>>> please > >>>>>>>> identify the class or group on this report. Thanks. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Tim> On 06/12/2024 9:50 AM EDT Pete Resnick > >>>>>>>> <resnick@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > >>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Hi Tim, > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Did you receive the voicemail message? Are you able/willing to > >>>>>>>>> have a > >>>>>>>>> discussion with us. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Sofía and Pete > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On 11 Jun 2024, at 15:13, Pete Resnick wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Hi Tim, > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> I will call and leave you a message with the basics of the > >>>>>>>>>> report, > >>>>>>>>>> but > >>>>>>>>>> we can't conduct a discussion via voicemails. I'll try to > >>>>>>>>>> explain > >>>>>>>>>> in > >>>>>>>>>> my message. I will reply under separate cover to answer your > >>>>>>>>>> other > >>>>>>>>>> procedural questions. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Pete > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> On 10 Jun 2024, at 23:01, Timothy Mcsweeney wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Currently, I don't trust anyone working for, or > >>>>>>>>>>> participating > >>>>>>>>>>> in, > >>>>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>> IETF but I would be willing to meet you half way with your > >>>>>>>>>>> required > >>>>>>>>>>> confidentiality. You can leave me a voicemail or > >>>>>>>>>>> pre-recorded > >>>>>>>>>>> message with the information you want to disclose and I > >>>>>>>>>>> could > >>>>>>>>>>> respond > >>>>>>>>>>> to all points made in kind. 716-473-6361 > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Tim > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On 06/10/2024 11:28 PM EDT Pete Resnick > >>>>>>>>>>>> <resnick@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Tim, > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Our work is described in RFC 7776 > >>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7776.html> . Note in > >>>>>>>>>>>> particular > >>>>>>>>>>>> that > >>>>>>>>>>>> our work is completely independent of any other processes > >>>>>>>>>>>> undertaken > >>>>>>>>>>>> in > >>>>>>>>>>>> the IETF. Any comments you may have read on public lists > >>>>>>>>>>>> today > >>>>>>>>>>>> are > >>>>>>>>>>>> separate and apart from our work. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Again, we would like to chat with you about a recent report > >>>>>>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>>>>>> us. > >>>>>>>>>>>> Are > >>>>>>>>>>>> you willing to speak with us about it? > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Pete and Sofia > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On 10 Jun 2024, at 20:43, Timothy Mcsweeney wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Pete, Hi Sofia, > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't really know anything about the Ombudsteam work, I > >>>>>>>>>>>>> can't > >>>>>>>>>>>>> remember a time when I have ever needed to speak with an > >>>>>>>>>>>>> ombudsman/obudswoman. I would be interested in what you > >>>>>>>>>>>>> have > >>>>>>>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>>>>>>> share > >>>>>>>>>>>>> but I don't really have anything of value to add to your > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Obudsteam > >>>>>>>>>>>>> work. Unless you would like me to forward you some emails > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I > >>>>>>>>>>>>> recieved, > >>>>>>>>>>>>> like Scott Weeks calling me an asshole? > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I think after reading through the comments today, its > >>>>>>>>>>>>> pretty > >>>>>>>>>>>>> clear > >>>>>>>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>>>>>>> me what's happening. I'm just going to let this play out > >>>>>>>>>>>>> however > >>>>>>>>>>>>> its > >>>>>>>>>>>>> going to play out and be ok with whatever the result is, > >>>>>>>>>>>>> as > >>>>>>>>>>>>> should > >>>>>>>>>>>>> you. This is your ship, I'm just a stowaway. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Tim > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 06/10/2024 10:32 PM GMT Pete Resnick > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <resnick@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Timothy, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> We would like to chat with you about a recent report to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ombudsteam. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> As you may know, all Ombudsteam work is confidential, so > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> we > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> would > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> not > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> like to do this by email. Are you available to discuss > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> this > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> on > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Signal > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> (preferably by voice or video) or some other more secure > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> platform > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> you have available? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pete and Sofia > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the Ombudsteam -- last-call mailing list -- last-call@xxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to last-call-leave@xxxxxxxx
