On 3/23/24 12:29, Pete Resnick wrote:
While I do agree with that, my point was that decisions have to be made on mailing lists. It takes a few days before everyone on the list has had a chance to read a proposal and the associated discussion, express their opinions (or choose not to do so) and for that discussion to settle down. And some people are likely away from their email for a day or three. A week is much closer than a day, as a minimum time required to take a decision.A decision made a day before a meeting doesn't allow enough time to see whether there would be complaints.
Completely agree with Keith that making these decisions at the last minute is not acceptable.
But where I disagree with John is with the notion that these artificial rules and procedures address the issue in any meaningful way.
I won't make broad generalizations about "artificial rules and procedures" (what's artificial, anyway?) but I thought the two-week deadline on postings before a meeting was a good compromise, easy to remember, with a valuable consistency across all working groups, and it served us well. IMO there's far too much variation between different working groups these days, such that you now have to learn about the culture of any specific WG that the way that particular WG's chair(s) want to run things, in order to participate effectively. And that, IMO, does even more harm to IETF, which is already too hostile to "outsiders" and generalists.
Keith
