Hi Robert, > On Feb 6, 2024, at 1:49 PM, Robert Raszuk <robert@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Hi John, > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-wirtgen-bgp-tls/ See my earlier reply to Linda. > And for DTLS ... isn't this simply TCP over DTLS which works just fine ? I’m not sure what you’re getting at here. It’s possible to layer lots of things over lots of other things. That doesn’t mean that it makes sense to do so, or that it’s something you can just mention in (literally) a single word in a spec and imagine you’ve provided enough detail. In this case, Linda said she planned to remove the mention of DTLS, which makes more sense to me, so I guess we don’t need to keep discussing it. —John > > Many thx, > R. > > > > On Tue, Feb 6, 2024 at 4:38 PM John Scudder <jgs=40juniper.net@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I haven’t done a full review of this document, but I did notice that Roman Danyliw balloted DISCUSS on version 15 [1], asking, among other things, "Are there pointers for BGP over DTLS? Over TLS?”. This doesn’t appear to have been addressed, either in Linda’s reply to Roman [2], or in the text of the document. It seems ill-advised to be last calling a document with an unaddressed DISCUSS. For what it’s worth, Roman’s point seems to me to be on target — as far as I’m aware, there is no IETF specification for BGP over TLS, and I don’t expect that there will ever be a specification for BGP over DTLS, given that BGP assumes a stream transport. > > $0.02, > > —John > > [1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bess-bgp-sdwan-usage/ballot/#draft-ietf-bess-bgp-sdwan-usage_roman-danyliw > [2] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/bess/-AT3GpMR6rr6-ywB5vWD7EbGk0w/ > > > On Feb 1, 2024, at 11:58 AM, The IESG <iesg-secretary@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > The IESG has received a request from the BGP Enabled ServiceS WG (bess) to > > consider the following document: - 'BGP Usage for SD-WAN Overlay Networks' > > <draft-ietf-bess-bgp-sdwan-usage-19.txt> as Informational RFC > > > > The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final > > comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the > > last-call@xxxxxxxx mailing lists by 2024-02-15. Exceptionally, comments may > > be sent to iesg@xxxxxxxx instead. In either case, please retain the beginning > > of the Subject line to allow automated sorting. > > > > Abstract > > > > > > The document discusses the usage and applicability of BGP as the > > control plane for multiple SD-WAN scenarios. The document aims to > > demonstrate how the BGP-based control plane is used for large- > > scale SD-WAN overlay networks with little manual intervention. > > > > SD-WAN edge nodes are commonly interconnected by multiple types of > > underlay networks owned and managed by different network > > providers. > > > > > > > > > > The file can be obtained via > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bess-bgp-sdwan-usage/__;!!NEt6yMaO-gk!E4My2sQFYwfDPTtjIaFd1jpCRXVBB-u6OkgI3yHHnKfSsS4Kc80iA-x0qPn_krxB9c0LBSQsXvI1RN7dGgEtnA$ > > > > > > > > No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D. > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > IETF-Announce mailing list > > IETF-Announce@xxxxxxxx > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-announce__;!!NEt6yMaO-gk!E4My2sQFYwfDPTtjIaFd1jpCRXVBB-u6OkgI3yHHnKfSsS4Kc80iA-x0qPn_krxB9c0LBSQsXvI1RN5i_8mwVg$ > > -- > last-call mailing list > last-call@xxxxxxxx > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/last-call -- last-call mailing list last-call@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/last-call
